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IP Banking User Group Meeting 
17 October 2000

1.      Introduction and apologies 

Eddie Doherty welcomed everybody to the meeting and introduced the three visitors from PricewaterhouseCoopers who were visiting CAU.

2.      On-line access to BANCS (Demonstration & discussion)

Simon Moss gave a presentation of the on-line access facility that CAU is planning to provide to insolvency practitioners to enable them to view their accounts online.  Various ideas with regard to how insolvency practitioners (IPs) would like the system to work were raised and these included:

  • The ability to see which IP address was linked to each account. 

  • A direct email link to the reconciliation section so that the IP can highlight any errors on the account.

  • A separate list of cases that were allocated to the IP but have now been closed.

Simon agreed that the ideas above would not require a major change to the system and could be introduced with phase one.

  •  On-line payment requisitions using digital signatures and other security measures. 

Eddie explained that this would require a change in legislation and therefore would not be applicable for the release of phase one. 

Other ideas were raised but Simon explained that these would require a change to the CAU database and therefore would be items to consider for the future:-

  • IP being issued with multiple passwords (1 for each insolvency type) so that the cashiers dealing with a particular insolvency type are only allowed to access their own cases within the firm.

  • The ability to follow the progress of a CAU101 through the system from receipt to the despatch of the cheque.

  • To be able to see behind the front screen of the posting, which would include being able to see the cheque number and a cheque’s current status.  

Simon thanked the meeting for their ideas and explained that funding for the project still had to be confirmed but he hoped to have the system available for use by the end of the financial year 2000/2001

Access to the system would be supported between 8am and 6pm but the system would be available 24 hours a day.

Eddie agreed that CAU would look at what security packages were available with regard to on-line requisitions in preparation for phase two of the project.

3.      Matters arising from the previous meeting

a)      Customer Survey

Ron advised the meeting that 400 surveys were issued to insolvency practitioners and over 50% were returned. The analysis of the results is underway and a draft report has been prepared.  All insolvency practitioners who returned the survey and members of the user group receive a full copy, which will include the original questionnaire. An abridged copy will be published in Dear IP and on The Insolvency Service website.  Some interesting ideas were raised which will be reviewed.

b)      Cheque Counterfoil

Ron advised the meeting that the request for the payee name and amount of the cheque to be printed on the counterfoil had now been implemented.    

c)      IP signature database

Ron asked if members were aware of any problems arising from the 100% check on IP signatures that CAU has been carrying out since the beginning of July. No problems were reported and no delay in receiving cheques had been noticed.

4.      Performance

Ron Heppenstall advised the meeting that the key volume figures could be found in their folders. He outlined the continued rise in intake with the exception of the expected reduction in investment transactions, which is linked to the low interest rate.  Despite the increased intake CAU has managed to meet all of the key targets.  Ron stated that last month CAU had produced over 4,000 cheques for a voluntary dividend and asked the group whether it was cheaper for the IP to use CAU rather than produce the cheques themselves.  It was agreed that the turnaround time offered by CAU rather than the cost was the deciding factor in most offices.  Jim informed the meeting that the requisitions performance target for the year 2001/2002 would be improved to 100% of requisitions processed in 4 days and 90% processed in 3 days. 

5.      BACS

Eddie advised the meeting that the use of BACS was disappointing with only 1.8% of payments being paid via BACS.  Dawn Palmer explained that she believed it was due to changes in internal procedures, which cashiers in IP firms would have to make to use BACS.

A couple of problems were highlighted regarding the quoting of references on the payment details and in remittance advice letters when the payment had been made.  Eddie said he would liaise with the software developers to ensure that the problem was corrected.  The non-receipt of remittance advice letters was also raised together with a problem in making BACS payments.  Eddie will take this up with CAU managers.

6.      Security

Ron asked if there were any issues regarding security.  No issues were raised

7.      Interest on Bankruptcy estates

When the Insolvency Bill is enacted, bankruptcy estates will be entitled to purchase Government securities as well as receiving interest at 3.5% pa on surplus funds over £2,000. CAU’s system developers are currently upgrading BANCS to cope with the change in legislation.  Jim explained that the bill had to be enacted upon by Parliament by the end of November 2000 and with the changes to be made to the Insolvency Rules and Insolvency Regulations it will probably not come into effect until Spring 2001.  The amendment means that the number of cases requiring interest to be credited at each half year is expected to double, which may result in down time for BANCS during the half-year exercise.

8.      email

Eddie advised the meeting that email addresses had now been created for the individual sections within CAU and that they could be used for sending statement requests and orders for paying in books direct to customer services.  CAU101s via email will not be processed as the original signature of the IP is required for payments out of the ISA.  Eddie advised the meeting that the proposed layout for the CAU page on the Insolvency Service website was included in their folder he explained that the current page was out of date and the amended version should be available by the end of October 2000, located on the IP Services site.  The new email addresses for the individual sections are: -

9.      Quinquennial review

Jim advised the meeting that Pamela Denham and her team had completed stage one of the review and had submitted her report with recommendations to Ministers; we were awaiting the outcome.   Stage 2 would be to implement any changes that were recommended in the report.  Jim pointed out that if the recommendations included any significant changes to ISA banking arrangements, legislation would probably be required and therefore they would not be implemented immediately.  The decision would be made public and a formal statement would be issued in due course.

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11.    Any other business

a)      Sheila Bowles enquired if any guidelines had been located on the level of dividend below which raising of a dividend cheque was not required.  Eddie replied that he had been unable to locate in the legislation but he would review the situation and report back.

b)      Eddie advised the meeting that CAU was currently undertaking data integrity exercises to ensure that the data held by CAU was accurate before the introduction of on-line access.  Cases with a zero balance prior to 01/04/99 are being closed and cases with a static balance since 01/04/99 will be reviewed.   The first stage of the review is to check the status of the liquidation with Companies House.  If the company has been dissolved the case will be closed and the balance dealt with.  In bankruptcies and cases where the company has not been dissolved the IP will be contacted for details of the current status of the case.

c)      Treasury bills are currently only available for purchase once a week.  Eddie and Jim are meeting with National Debt Office with the view to arranging to return to purchasing treasury bills on a daily basis.

Eddie thanked everybody for their input and it was agreed that the next meeting would take place at 10.30 am on Wednesday 4th April 2001 @ The Insolvency Service Headquarters in Birmingham.